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tim leech SD1 Regular

Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 1006 Location: Rover Returns, Leech Towers, Middle England.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: PETROL? |
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Who runs theres on normal unleaded then, do you use a additive or not? Im just curious as when LRP was banned by the tree huggers I switched to unleaded wtihout any hitches so far, I do use superplus though these days.
Thanks for you input. _________________ 1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1987 Rover 2600VDP Auto.
1985 Citroen BX 19GT
1990 Citroen BX 16v
1994 Citroen Xantia 1.8i SX
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v8driver SD1 Regular

Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 208 Location: South Wales
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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suer plus, as long as its less than a quid a litre.
gets a bit more complicated if you've got a six cylinder I'm afraid as they need lead or head work. _________________ Half Poly bushed 3.5 Twin plenum VITESSE(currently undergoing 'Hotwire' conversion)
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Punx0r SD1 Regular
Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 231
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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On Ramon's advice the timing on mine is reduced from 10 degrees to 5-6 degrees BTDC. With it like this it's fine on supermarket 95RON unleaded. Most supers seem to be 97RON.
In honestly I think you could get quite close, if not on the orignal 10 degrees setting, especially with the 97. I suppose full throttle on a baking hot day would be the acid test. I wonder how much of a safety factor rover included with the 10 degrees?
Are people running standard timing on 95 RON without any problems? |
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CarlosV8 SD1 User

Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running 95RON through mine without any problems, but I've probably only just got through 1 tank in total since I've had it.
My local Tesco sell 99RON so might try a few fill ups with that to see if it made any difference. At some point I'll also check the timing to see what it's running at. _________________ Carl
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tommosredone SD1 User

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 99 Location: Mold North Wales
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running my Vitesse on 95 RON, the cheaper the better at (i think) 8 degrees BTDC. (It could well be 6, I can't remember; it's whatever is in the book).
I'm towing a caravan through our beautiful Welsh mountains next week with her, so I was thinking of going super unleaded. I put some 97 RON in, but that hasn't made any difference.
Anyone got any ideas?
I've pulled the van with her before (anyone heard of the Rhuallt Hill?), there was no pinking at all, but I want to give her the best chance of a blemish-free holiday.
I've just changed the engine and gearbox oils, so i'm happy there!
PS I've always given Tesco's petrol a swerve...
Cheers
Tommo _________________ I wish I could make my own petrol. |
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3528cc SD1 User

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 138 Location: Darlington
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I run my Vitesse on Super unleaded and get a little bit more to the gallon against std unleaded _________________ Regards
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JohnnyK SD1 User

Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: 2600 auto |
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how do I know if my 2600 auto has been converted? i bought it on thursday. Other than strong smell of exhaust inside the cabin  i can't tell what's already been done |
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londonbabe SD1 User
Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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As a 2300 owner myself I researched this and was informed by several people who ought to know, that as the six cylinders have alloy heads, the valves already have hardened inserts fitted, and it will run just fine on regular unleaded.
If the inserts are really not as hard as they ought to be it really doesn't matter because the engine will seize its cam or blow the water pump before the valve seats go anyway, and then you can put a V8 in.  |
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Chris P SD1 Regular

Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 673 Location: Wiltshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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There is some info on unleaded fuel and SD1s here:
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You'd only be able to tell any changes if you had the head
off (even then not sure how you'd tell?).
Exhaust fumes in the cabin can be a result of a 'non-standard'
exhaust. The straight exit tailpipe, rather than the SD1 dog-leg,
can introduce fumes through the tailgate. The dog-leg is there
to stop fumes getting into the cabin, after all. |
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tommosredone SD1 User

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 99 Location: Mold North Wales
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I've changed my tailpipe from a centre exit to the 'swan neck', and it didn't seem to make any difference; there is still a lot of fumes coming in, albiet only when I open my window. Window up, all is well.
I suspect my Vitesse is a fan of overfuelling, which makes it smelly anyway. People who have followed me say it stinks.
This is not the first time people have complained about the fumes form my exhaust either!!!!
Cheers, _________________ I wish I could make my own petrol. |
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kerosene SD1 Regular

Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 266 Location: IRL
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Normal petrol for me!
It says on the back of the non-v8 handbooks(Series 2):
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Fuel Grade 4 star UK Rating
Octane Rating 97 minimum
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kerosene SD1 Regular

Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 266 Location: IRL
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You say 'normal' petrol, but 'normal' unleaded is 95RON, surely you'd need super unleaded if you don't want to have to retard your timing? |
yeah,you see they dont sell super unleaded here in ireland! so i cant do shit.but you are right the timing needs doing. |
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Punx0r SD1 Regular
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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See here for some info on valve seat erosion:
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The basic gist is that any aluminium head will be suitable for unleaded. |
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gogs SD1 User
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 44 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
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